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[deusexmechanic]

[Private to Hayley Stark]

I'm blocking all contact between you and Rex. He showed me the conversation between you two, and I don't care how much you hate me, he is isolated enough without you coming in and trying to fuck up one of his only real friendships on this boat, because apparently after nearly a year of protecting him you decided to try and convince him that he should be afraid of me.

It was manipulative, and it was selfish, and it was cruel, and he doesn't need that right now. So you lose contact with him, end of discussion.

[Private to Capa]

I just did something that's going to make your inmate hate me even more. Apologies in advance for any fallout you get from it.

[Private to Edward Nygma]

Hey, uh, couple of things. First of all, I wanted to kinda thank you. There's a conversation you had with Rex recently that I think got him to come forward and talk to me about some really important stuff that he's been going through. Hopefully we're going to get him back on track now. So thank you.

Second thing: If I ever hear about you blackmailing him again? Then I'll kick your ass so hard that that the intensity of the pressure will cause a split second fold in the space-time continuum, and your childhood self will be traumatized for life.

[Private to the Admiral]

I want you to block all communication from Hayley Stark to Rex, and I want any private messages or conversations that Rex has with Armand to be made visible to me.



[ooc: Backdated to the end of this conversation. Sorry, you all got busted at exactly the same time under a massive downpour of trauma, so the wardening is STRICT. All of this has been okayed by Ros in advance. ]

Comments

That conversation made me tear up a lot :( Well played, you two.

[wichita-kansas.livejournal.com]

Srry your boyfriend is broken, Wichita :c

[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

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[ourlastbesthope.livejournal.com]

What did you do?

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

I asked the Admiral to cut her contact with Rex off. Just a heads up.

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[ourlastbesthope.livejournal.com]

Why was she talking to Rex in the first place?

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

Normally? She talks to him because they're on good terms. In this instance, it was because she felt the need to tell him how much he could trust her, and 'warn him' about me.

Normally I wouldn't be bothered, but right now... look, Rex needs me. Maybe he didn't always need me, but now he really, really needs someone who he trusts and... I don't think he does trust anyone else. I can't afford to let her jeopardize that.

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[ourlastbesthope.livejournal.com]

No, no. I understand. Thanks for telling me.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

It's cool. Just... sorry for the fallout, if you get any.

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[ourlastbesthope.livejournal.com]

Why are you apologizing?

Hayley will be Hayley.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I guess that's true. Just in a perfect world I would have liked to kept my hands clean, you know?

So how's life as a paired man treating you?

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[ourlastbesthope.livejournal.com]

I know what you mean. But don't worry. I'm doing what I can for Hayley. She is a friend, as well. One day she might remember that fact.

And this place certainly isn't perfect. Being paired has...been about the same as not being paired so far.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

She will. You know when we were first paired, Rex hated me. We argued all the time, he wished for the Admiral to drop Cobras into my room, I gave him SARS... I don't even know how or when we changed, but something about being stuck with each other got to us in the end.

It'll grow on you.

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[ourlastbesthope.livejournal.com]

The difference is...Hayley and I got along before we were paired.

I don't like the animosity.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but it wasn't you two being paired that stopped her from getting along with you.

[Super brief guilt.]

You read her file, you talk to her about her issues, you look out for her... and no matter what she's pissed at you over, it's going to mean something in the end.

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[ourlastbesthope.livejournal.com]

I plan on doing that anyway.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

I know that. I'm just filling you in on the emotional consequences of it.

Eventually she will appreciate you looking out for her, even if she kicks and screams when you're getting started.

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[ourlastbesthope.livejournal.com]

Eventually.

We'll see.

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[everylittlegirl]

Whatever.

I wanted him to be informed, since apparently no one actually is. I educate someone, I get cut off from them.. you're becoming a tyrant and the really scary thing is? No one will even notice, just because I'm not going about it the right way.

Whatever makes you feel better, Z.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

You wanna make a PSA about it? Be my guest. I don't care.

I'm just not letting your problem with me become a problem for him.

Private -- Sorry, answered prematurely earlier.

[everylittlegirl]

Look, I know you're not going to listen to me anyway, so.. If you really think it's better for Rex? Then fine. I'll stop talking to him for awhile, but not forever. We were friends for a reason. If you still want me not to talk to him in two weeks? Remind me then.

Private -- Np!

[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

When he's more stable, I'll ask the Admiral to let your messages through to him again, but I can't put a time limit on that.

I don't know how long it'll be.

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[everylittlegirl]

"Stable?" What's wrong with him?

I told you, just remind me in two weeks if you still want, okay? I'm not going to stop talking to him for months just because you forget to reevaluate or whatever.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

I'm not going to give you a rundown of his problems. Suffice to say that right now I'm pretty majorly concerned about his well being, and right now I obviously can't trust you to put aside your issues with me long enough to actually give a crap about his better interests.

In the big picture I have no major problem with you being friends with him. Do I like it? No. Am I going to try and sabotage his relationships purely because I have a problem with you? Also no. But right now I'm not prepared to negotiate on this.

If in one months time I haven't already put you back in contact with him, then you get a free pass to approach me without me telling you to fuck off. I really, really hope that in a month he'll be in a position where I can say yes to you, but I can't right now.

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[everylittlegirl]

..What do you think I'm doing right now?

What's wrong with me asking in two weeks instead of a month? I mean, we could always work out a deal where I just don't talk about you, but apparently it's just better to cut off my his friends than to try to work something out to his advantage.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

Trying to get your own way.

Because I don't think that two weeks will be enough time, and I get tired of saying no to you. Look, it's not just you talking about me, it's about you trying to push your agenda on him. Maybe it wasn't deliberate, and maybe you thought you were just warning him, but he thought it was manipulative and so did I, and... he really doesn't need that crap right now, and I don't think there's any way I can convince myself that you' wouldn't pull that crap again in a hot Vederen second.

Private; visible to Capa

[everylittlegirl]

It would be cute how completely biased and blind you are if it weren't so annoying.

I don't have an agenda with Rex and I like him too much to try to make him do anything. I promise I won't try to contact him at all for two weeks. Then I'd be willing to make every single thing I say to Rex visible to Capa.. that way he could let you know if I say anything bad about you or whatever and he could stop my communications right then.

I know you think it's the best thing for Rex and I not to talk and I know you care about him, so I know you're really not just trying to get him to hate me or anything.. but Rex and I really are friends and I wouldn't be fighting this at all if I didn't think I could help him. And I mean help him, not help him fit my agenda or whatever. I've never tried to make him do anything.. or to manipulate him.. or to get anything from him. We bonded over Wichita's abandonment and that's all this friendship has been about, sharing experiences and having someone to like, vent to.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

Two weeks won't be long enough, and if you don't think you were doing anything wrong this time around, then there's no way for you to mentally restrict yourself from doing it again.

If you're really his friend? And if you really care about what he needs right now? Then you'll still want to help him in a month.

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[everylittlegirl]

That depends on the two weeks. Sometimes two weeks here is like a day and other times it's like a year, depending on what happens. I'm not saying let me talk to him in two weeks. I'm saying let me talk to you about talking to him. If you're still sure, tell me to wait another two weeks. It won't kill you.

There's nothing wrong with warning people about their friends under normal circumstances, but Rex clearly isn't normal right now and I know that now. Besides, like I said, I'm willing to just.. not talk about you or whatever. I'm not so naive that I don't get how people can perceive things the wrong way, so I'll just avoid anything that could be perceived as like, me trying to manipulate him again.. that's not what I was trying to do.

Yeah, I will, but that's like saying.. antibiotics for ebola will still be there in a month. Sure, they will be, but sometimes it's better to take them sooner than later and neither of us will know where he'll be in two weeks. Forgive me for being eager to talk to my friend again and to make sure he's okay. That whole 'emotional blackmail' thing you're doing won't work when I know exactly what you're doing. Because I'm his friend and I care about what he needs? I want to check up on him in two weeks.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

Are you seriously accusing me of--

Forget it. I believe you have good intentions, but I'm not gonna debate this with you.

If I think it's a good idea for you to talk to him in two weeks then I'll let you know. It's not like I'm going to forget after you've made such a huge deal about it, but don't be surprised if you don't hear from me because I strongly suspect it'll take longer.

You're not the antibiotics, Hayley. I'm only hoping I'm not wrong in thinking you can be part of the aftercare.

Private; visible to Capa [strikes not readable]

[everylittlegirl]

Alright. I'll ask you in two weeks and we can talk about it then. It's funny how you agree with me more when Capa's reading.

You don't know anything about what I am to Rex, good or bad. You really have no idea. So, fine, we'll talk about it in two weeks, but don't pretend like you're doing me some big favor for letting me talk to my friend.. or letting my friend talk to me. I'm trying to help him just like you.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

It's not going to be a discussion, you get a yes or a no, that's it.

For fucks sake, Hayley, this is not a commentary on whatever the hell kind of friend you think you are to Rex, it's a commentary on what is going on with him right now and what he needs.

I don't care about doing you any favors or what you think I know about whatever. I only care about doing what's best for him, that's all this is about for me. And I know you think I'm going about it wrong and you should be able to talk to him whenever? But you're not his warden, you don't know what's going on with him right now, and it's not your call to make.

[ooc: lol fail, I forgot to delete before, but he's not actively making his replies visible to Capa. She can show Capa if she likes? But it'd have to be on her journal, cause Harper's keeping them private to her.]

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[everylittlegirl]

Okay.

It matters what kind of friend I am because that changes how I might affect him and whether or not that is something he needs or whether it will.. hinder his progress or whatever. You can't judge whether I would be good for him or not if you don't know anything about our why we're friends or how we interact. I don't care what you think just like you don't care what I think. I care, like I said before, about helping my friend, but I get that I have to go through you to do it, so I'm trying to do it the right way.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

[Longest of sighs]

You're right. The biggest part of this isn't that I think you're a horrible influence on him because got know's he's smart enou--, it's that he showed me a conversation with you that didn't need to happen, that made things worse for him, and that could have really fucked him up right now.

Remember those last words. Right now.

Maybe you're right, and two weeks of your friendship would have him right as rain or whatever, but I can't know that, and I can't trust you enough to risk the most important his well being on your saying that it's a good idea. So if when two weeks comes around I tell you not yet, hell, if a month comes around and I say not yet? Then don't assume I'm doing it to spite you or because I'm a 'Tyrant' or because I'm 'biased and blind'.

I'm doing it to protect him from the possibility that you're wrong, and the day I'm confident that he can take whatever the hell you're dishing out? Good or bad? That's the day you'll hear from me.

But right now? I can't risk him over this.

Jesus I don't even know why I'm explaining myself to you... Look I just want to make this clear that even if the next few weeks go bad, this won't be forever. That's all.

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[everylittlegirl]

I know.. I mean, I didn't know, at the time. I'm sorry.

As long as you're doing it for him in two weeks or a month and not because you a biased and blind tyrant? I won't call you one.

I'm a risk. Gee, thanks.. Yeah, I get what you're saying and I get that it's not even worth explaining anything else because you'll just perceive it as manipulative, so. Whatever. I'll talk to you in two weeks.

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[puzzleprince.livejournal.com]

Threatened for doing your job. Territorial sort, aren't you? Rex has had a lucky pick, but I wouldn't go dolling out promises you can't keep.

That said, I've already assisted to the extent that I can, so enjoy the process of weaning him off Armand and patching up those issues.

[Pause.]

My condolences. As well.

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[deusexmechanic.livejournal.com]

Me? Territorial? Never.

[Pause]

Although I have kinda filled the engine room with traps.

Thanks. Despite the threats, I really do mean that. I don't want to think about how much worse this could have gotten for him.